I'm getting really tired of people in the game of WoW....I mean seriously its a F*in game and people want to take things personal or start shit and its just really, really sad. Tonight we raided with Impact Players....well I wouldn't really call it raiding, we did Constructer and that was pretty much it because they started Flame before amorgan and I were there. Being honest, I am not a big fan of raiding with Impact, because the last time I did, I was less then enthused about the loot distribution rules. The way they were explained and the way I understood it to be was this, Guild gets first on loot, if no one needs it within the guild then it goes to others who have raided with them before, if no one needs it either then it will go to the *newbies*. Now don't get me wrong guild's are entitled to there way of looting, but seriously do they expect people to be happy with those rules. I mean come on, you want some one to give 110% on dps, healing, or tanking but you only want to give them a slight chance to get some gear.
So after Constructer amorgan and I opted to leave the group, I left because I had kid aggro and amorgan left because to him there wasn't a point to stay, he knew it would be a slim chance to get gear so he was honest when he left, he told him that he wasn't staying because to him he didn't stand a chance to get gear in their group. Which spark some hostility and he was whispered to by one of the players in Impact Players wanting to know what he meant. So he explained, that with their loot rules it was slim to none that he would be able to get anything and to him there was other things he could be doing. To which the other player replied, that thats not how it is and he must of misunderstood their way of looting, and blah blah blah, that he basically disrespected them. And all I have to say to that is BULLSHIT. I was on vent when loot came up and before things were rolled on the loot master pretty well named everyone who was getting what....and even held on to loot for someone who wasn't in the raid. But yet thats not how there loot system is...please tell it to someone who might believe you. I'm almost to the point where I am about to uninstall this damn game.
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Brilliant. First, I'd like to point out that Impact Players didn't start FL before you got there - in saying that, you make it sound as if it was a deliberate act to prevent you from taking part in the fight. You weren't the only ones who were excluded from that fight; the event was started, presumably by accident, by someone pulling the last Colossus before everyone in the raid was ready. I'm sure it's not the first time, and I doubt it will be the last time...but it wasn't intentional.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, and as I told Amorgan last night when I tried to clarify what he said on Vent, our guild loot rules are not "guild first" but "participation required"...the more you raid, the higher your priority. There are a dozen or so people outside the guild who run with us on a regular basis, and the goal is to reward their loyalty when possible. The idea is that someone who puts in their time and helps to make our 25-mans possible should have a higher priority for loot than a random pug or one-time raider.
As far as Amorgan's announcement over Vent and the ensuing "hostility"... His Vent faded toward the end, and what I (and other people on Vent) heard was "well there's no loot I want...and since I'm not getting loot, I'm leaving." I messaged him to clarify what was said, because it WAS taken by several people who heard it as "I expect loot or I don't raid." If he felt I was being hostile, I'm sorry, that wasn't my intent -- I meant to clarify, and possibly open a dialogue...but whatever.
Lastly, with regards to the BOE ring, our loot-master asked several times over Vent if anyone needed it and if anyone had a problem if he took it for our main tank who couldn't make it. NO ONE spoke up. It's one thing for a loot master to loot something to himself without talking to the raid first, but when the LM specifically ASKS the raid if he can do so and the only response is "yeah, sure", I don't think it's very fair to badmouth him in a public forum because you aren't happy with the decision.
Feel free to speak to me in-game about this.
Linnea
Thats fair, maybe I did misunderstand the loot rules due to the fact that it had been awhile since I had raided with you all.
ReplyDeleteSecond, when the tank ring game up I chose not to roll, only after I heard that it would be saved for another tank that was not there, it is also fair to say that I may of not heard it said over vent that it was up to anyone who needed it...as mentioned before I was also having to deal with an upset three year old.
And as for badmouthing the LM, I wasn't persay badmouthing the person himself, but the loot rules as I understood them to be. And like I said there might of been points that I did not see from all that was going on around me.
I apologize for any hard feelings my blog might of brought about, I think as far as this incident goes there was alot of confusion and misunderstanding that lead to frustration and a break down in communication.
You apparently haven't read this blog before Linn. Fire comes in all angry about a game (And says that some people take the game too seriously?) then posts badly about someone publicly, and doesn't post again for a while.
ReplyDeleteSeriously Nagu hasn't your mouth gotten you in trouble enough already....but once again you like to comment on stuff that doesn't concern you. I wonder how many people still mute you on vent because of that.
ReplyDeleteYeah I get mad about things in this game...and usually it has to do with other peoples attitude...and be honest Nagu your attitude is one that I can not stand, you start so much crap with people and then back out of it real quick when you realized you've gone to far, as for the issue this blog dealt with, yes I got angry, no I did not talk bad about someone only a loot policy that I misunderstood, and situations that I might of not of fully seen because of things going on, as an adult I can admit my own fault and apologize....maybe when you become an adult Nagu I will take what you say seriously, intill that time please feel free to remove my blog from your list, because I have no time to be reading shit from a 14 year old, especially one that has a history of starting things between other players and then running away with his tail tucked between his legs when he's called out on it.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah and about not posting a blog for awhile, its kinda hard to do that when your busy reconnecting with your child who you didn't see for a month because of recovering from surgery, if you knew what you were talking about and had the facts you would of also noticed that in addition to not blogging I wasn't playing wow either, but of course you would of missed that because you don't look at the big picture you look only at the part that you can start crap over...grow up.
ReplyDeleteOk, fair enough. I'm willing to let bygones be bygones if you are. And like you, I'm also likely to get my hackles up when I feel my man (i.e. the LM) isn't being treated fairly, so no hard feelings there either. As for the ring, I'm sorry you either missed what was said on Vent or didn't feel you could speak up at the time. Our guild has a history of being pretty inclusive as far as raids go, and our loot policy has evolved as a way to try to deal with loot-whores and ninjas. It's not perfect, obviously, but I can promise you if you raid with us on a regular basis, you'll be rewarded for your troubles!
ReplyDeleteAnd alot of our guildies have spouse/kid aggro -- it's one of the reasons our loot system has evolved as it has. Straight DKP rewards people with no lives and punishes those who maybe can't make a raid because the toddler's screaming bloody murder or the boss scheduled them to work the 5 a.m. shift for the next six weeks. =P
I hope you'll give us another shot, and if an issue arises in the future, don't be afraid to bitch at me mid-raid. =)
Linn